I wasn't planning on the thread to go quite the way it did yesterday.. All I wanted was some transparency from Crudebar and his interactions with Sam.. Sam , who I've never had any previous contact with , did contact me about his issues with Crude. He was going to post his own thread...Some pretty bad stuff was brought to my attention , more than what's been shown on the forum. Once he described the blackmail and the PP scams , I decided to bring it to the forum myself. Willie's PP account was used to fund these Presidential wagers. Like Sam's account , Willie's account was frozen too , by the same individual. Sam's account also had a charge back initiated during the same time. I was concerned that Willie's account was being exploited the same way. Apparently this Crudebar has multiple PP and email accounts.. When you add in the blackmail ,this doesn't look very good.
My first goal was to alert Willie to be careful paying out these wagers if his PP account was still suspended , make sure a charge back wasn't initiated like Sam's account was. Just get yourself cleared in other words before doing anything going forward.
I'd like to have seen Crude come in and clear this up or make it right to some extent.. At the same time , maybe post up more funds to at least give the Trump bettors some assurances that these wagers are credible for us to be involved with.. PP scams , blackmails , threats , can give a guy some serious doubts.. Who wants to risk their own funds for nothing in return ? I don't..
[FONT="]As far as these wagers are concerned , at no time did I want them cancelled. Still don't want them cancelled. Not sure how many times I have to say it here.. I've been called all kinds of names , like moron , stupid , delusional , you name it , by the same fools here , none of them btw , has a stake in any of this... I'm sticking with my bets..I plan on winning them. If I lose , Crude gets paid. Its that simple. For anyone to suggest differently , they can keep chirping I guess.. Its just noise from the crowd to be honest. I would stack my credibility with anyone on this forum.. [/FONT]
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[FONT="]I have serious doubts Crude will pay off these wagers. A guy shelling out 50K with the way he takes care of his business , I see no way its going to happen.[/FONT]
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[FONT="]My goal wasn't to get him banned , If he had a reason to be banned , I didn't want it to be on my account . Crude getting banned didn't help me in any way here , like a few clueless posters here suggests.. It makes collecting my winnings quite tougher down the road..[/FONT]
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[FONT="]I could be wrong though. If Crude makes things right , pays off his losing wagers , or even posts up with what he's liable for with these wagers , then I've completely misjudged Crude , the situation , and in that case , will ban myself from this forum. Maybe I would deserve that in that case..[/FONT]
My first goal was to alert Willie to be careful paying out these wagers if his PP account was still suspended , make sure a charge back wasn't initiated like Sam's account was. Just get yourself cleared in other words before doing anything going forward.
I'd like to have seen Crude come in and clear this up or make it right to some extent.. At the same time , maybe post up more funds to at least give the Trump bettors some assurances that these wagers are credible for us to be involved with.. PP scams , blackmails , threats , can give a guy some serious doubts.. Who wants to risk their own funds for nothing in return ? I don't..
[FONT="]As far as these wagers are concerned , at no time did I want them cancelled. Still don't want them cancelled. Not sure how many times I have to say it here.. I've been called all kinds of names , like moron , stupid , delusional , you name it , by the same fools here , none of them btw , has a stake in any of this... I'm sticking with my bets..I plan on winning them. If I lose , Crude gets paid. Its that simple. For anyone to suggest differently , they can keep chirping I guess.. Its just noise from the crowd to be honest. I would stack my credibility with anyone on this forum.. [/FONT]
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[FONT="]I have serious doubts Crude will pay off these wagers. A guy shelling out 50K with the way he takes care of his business , I see no way its going to happen.[/FONT]
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[FONT="]My goal wasn't to get him banned , If he had a reason to be banned , I didn't want it to be on my account . Crude getting banned didn't help me in any way here , like a few clueless posters here suggests.. It makes collecting my winnings quite tougher down the road..[/FONT]
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[FONT="]I could be wrong though. If Crude makes things right , pays off his losing wagers , or even posts up with what he's liable for with these wagers , then I've completely misjudged Crude , the situation , and in that case , will ban myself from this forum. Maybe I would deserve that in that case..[/FONT]